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Highest damage ever?; "Giga Impact misses, take 100 damage"
Topic Started: Apr 5 2017, 10:42 PM (720 Views)
Muted_ReDead
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So in a PTA campaign one of my fellow peers is an Electric-specializing Attack Ace. He, another player and the rest of the future gym leaders of Metalli were raiding a factory that produced X Chaos - an illegal and powerful drug for pokemon - with the knowledge that it was also a front for servants of the Void Dragon to produce various Regi golems.

There were approx. 6 "good guys," including the Attack Ace, who were in an encounter with 6 opposing Regirocks. Long story short, 5 Gym Leaders managed to take down 3 by combining their efforts, while the player took down 3 all by herself (granted she had Dual Wielding, but so did the other Gym Leaders-to-be).

In one round, she "missed" with Giga Impact, allowing her Raichu to deal its attack stat as unresisted damage. Yes, it was somewhere around 100 damage. Obviously that wasn't enough to KO a Regi, but that was still a miss! Heck, my GM recently used it against my 99 Defense Aggron (after two Iron defenses, of course)!

The 100-damage Giga Miss has been a common gag throughout our year-long campaign for months now, and there were a few instances before the factory raid when this happened, but only just now has the question ever entered my mind: What's the highest amount of damage you could possibly do in PTX?

Has anyone here ever done enough damage to split a planet in two with just a single attack? How far in the negatives was the poor target? Did the DM even bother making a Death Save? I'm looking forward to seeing what stories crop up!
Edited by Muted_ReDead, Apr 5 2017, 10:54 PM.
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Dark Shadow
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Well, in PTU, if you have a Normal Ace use a STAB Explosion with a Normal Gem, that's technically off the charts damage, but it'll be, even limiting to on the charts, 176+Attack Stat damage, guaranteed, which can be, with an Ace Trainer, made to deal, essentially, 88+half Attack on a miss. All of this in a burst 2, and before any other bonuses. Does that work?
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Muted_ReDead
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Dark Shadow
Apr 5 2017, 11:13 PM
Well, in PTU, if you have a Normal Ace use a STAB Explosion with a Normal Gem, that's technically off the charts damage, but it'll be, even limiting to on the charts, 176+Attack Stat damage, guaranteed, which can be, with an Ace Trainer, made to deal, essentially, 88+half Attack on a miss. All of this in a burst 2, and before any other bonuses. Does that work?
Or, in PTA, you could have an Electric Ace Type Shift Explosion to Electric, use charge, hold an Electric Gem and use Chosen one to Force a crit, Resulting in 24d20 + 110 + Attack stat damage.

We also didn't take into account the target receiving the damage. So what if we took some creative liberties and had a Fire Ace type-shift Charge and Explosion both to Fire type, and then target a level 1 Sickly Happiny that's been type-shifted twice into a Steel/Bug type, and also has a third Grass typing due to Forest's Curse during Sunny Day, resulting in 1.5x damage from the sun and a catastrophic x8 multiplier to the damage? Or maybe we could be a little more creative and abuse things like Fashion Designer which give pokemon Held Items that give abilities such as Huge Power or Adaptability? The list goes on and on.

I suppose the question is, is there a theoretically infinite amount of damage potential in PTX when considering all possible trainer feats and pokemon moves, or is there a limit? What is this limit, if it exists? Write this down, Calc students, 'cuz this'll be on the finals. And no, I will not be dropping the lowest score!
Edited by Muted_ReDead, Apr 5 2017, 11:48 PM.
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Kairose
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in order to reach the theoretical maximum damage, you need a L100 pokemon with all 110 level-up points into Atk/SAtk, and it also needs to have a nature that improves that stat, as many vitamins as possible (5 by default) to raise that, and to be at +6 combat stages. You also have to be attacking an opponent with 1 Def/SDef.

The best option I've found with a quick check is Mega Mawile, thanks to the boost from Huge Power. 9 base Attack +2 mega +2 nature + 5 vitamin = 18 base attack, which is doubled to 36 by Huge Power. The level-up points bring this total to 146, and then +6 combat stages bring us to 321 Attack. Without even accounting for move choice or weakness, we're up to 320 damage.

Now, let's assume you've gotten your Mega Mawile a Steel-shifted Explosion, and you're facing an Amaura who has had it's Defense lowered to 1. Since we're going for "theoretical" max damage, we'll use the maximum possible roll for a damage base 27 move, which is 166. Next we add our attack, and we'll have 486 damage. Amaura's defense reduces this to 485. However, it's double weakness (x2 in PTU 1.05) increases this to 970 damage.

So, it seems that 970 is the theoretical maximum without accounting for trainer features (other than move shift) or items (other than the Mega Stone) in PTU. I'll probably come back tomorrow to figure out how much trainer features and items can increase this.

Edit: I won't do PTA, since it's been much longer since I've looked at that, but it is almost certainly going to be higher in the end, since damage boosts are far more common
Edited by Kairose, Apr 6 2017, 12:38 AM.
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l33tmaan
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I can't speak for PTA, but in PTU my Octillery has done well over 200 damage with Sniper Super Effective critical hits.
It actually blew half of a Regirock apart with a well-placed Octozooka.
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Kaorin Sakura
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For the record: PTU v1.04.
15d12+75+10+SATK vs. SDEF 20.

Electric Sync Gardevoir with Charge, a 42 Satk with a +2 Satk CS hitting a Gyarados with -2 Sdef CS with a critical hit Hyper Beam from an Ion Deluge with Helping Hand buff. The damage, after rolls and SDEF becomes 223 and after type effectiveness becomes 669. That's the highest I'd ever gotten.

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l33tmaan
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So, uh, did that Gardevoir obliterate the Gyarados like a DBZ episode?
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The Black Glove
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There was a large crater and the smell of burning fish for a week afterwards.
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Muted_ReDead
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The important question is, was it still edible?
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Doubtful.
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