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Pokedex Discrepancies
Topic Started: Jan 20 2017, 04:47 PM (1,840 Views)
l33tmaan
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I don't mean to sound nitpicky or anything, but I couldn't help but notice that some Pokemon's capabilities don't always line up with information from the games or anime. Since 1.06 is apparently around the corner, I was wondering if the devs had any plans to look into some of the more overlooked pokemon. This thread can pull double duty and point out various discrepancies so it doesn't sound like I'm complaining.

For example, Durant is... an ant. Made of metal. Pretty straightfoward - it lives in a hive and makes giant, intricate tunnels to live in. Yet, strangely enough, Durants don't have Pack Mon or a Burrow speed? I understand that Pack Mon might not work since they aren't technically packs and don't evolve, but still, man... they're ants. They gotta have something similar to that. Is it a balance issue or is it just hard to pin down the capabilities of 750+ pokemon?
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Dr.Webster
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There's even a few editing mistakes. One I found is with Tynamo. Apparently, it has two swim speeds, 2 and 5. I guess that was overlooked before the final draft? Personally, I think its swim speed should be 5 since the pokemon is based on the lamprey, a jawless parasitic fish.
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I mean, it is a free product with over 1500 pages all told (too lazy to go actually count). Yeah there are some mistakes. I'm sure they've noticed and fixed it for next time because you pointed it out, but it doesn't come from a malicious place or anything. Remember that if these were D&D books, you'd be paying 150+ dollars for this amount of material.
Edited by Professor Scamander, Jan 22 2017, 06:27 AM.
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l33tmaan
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My intention is not to be hostile, I understand that there are a lot of pokemon and mistakes are made. That's fine, I didn't even realize I was implying the devs were being malicious. It's easy to just fix it on my own, but why let any mistakes continue into the next version when we can help the devs by cataloging possible pokemon to look at?
Another one that my players noticed yesterday is that, Sableye, despite being a creature that lives in caves and eats gems and rocks, has no burrow speed to speak of whatsoever, but... Quilava does? Huh? How does a Sableye get its food, then?

Again, I stress that this is not some kind of attack on the devs. Remember that if these were D&D books, I'd be paying 0 dollars for this amount of material as well, because they can't force me to pay for it and D&D sucks anyway.
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I don't think sableye should have a burrow speed, they can dig like a human could but they don't really have any reason for them to be able to dig anywhere near as fast as a burrow speed would grant.

Quilava on the otherhand also probably shouldn't have a burrow speed as the animals it is based on does not burrow (they live in burrows made by other creatures though).
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milo v3
Jan 22 2017, 06:22 PM
Quilava on the otherhand also probably shouldn't have a burrow speed as the animals it is based on does not burrow (they live in burrows made by other creatures though).
What, badgers? Since when do badgers not burrow? They've got those big old claws on their front feet for a reason.

Sableye largely lives in natural caverns, I think, so it doesn't really need to dig out more living space. They tend to find exposed veins of crystal or steal gems from miners rather than dig the things out themselves (and I don't think most Pokémon with a Burrow speed can get through solid rock anyway).

Durant not having Burrow is a little weirder, I'll admit. I think the only reason it doesn't have Pack Mon is that there isn't really a defined mechanic for a "queen" Durant the way that, say, Vespiquen serves as one for a Combee hive. In fact I don't think Durant have queens in canon, either...

If you're looking at mistakes, like Tynamo, you may find some of them fixed in the Pokédex that came out with the February 2016 playtest (Tynamo doesn't have the duplicated swim speed there).
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carnackiArdent
Jan 22 2017, 09:00 PM
If you're looking at mistakes, like Tynamo, you may find some of them fixed in the Pokédex that came out with the February 2016 playtest (Tynamo doesn't have the duplicated swim speed there).
Ok, thanks for clearing that up.
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As for Durant, the flavor text in the pokedex does suggest that it may be a candidate for Pack Mon.

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"They attack in groups, covering themselves in steel armor to protect themselves from Heatmor." - Pokedex entries from Black, Y, and Alpha Sapphire Versions.


As far as there being a "Queen" Durant, there has never been one in the canon so far. So, it seems their colonies function without a queen, but apparently, each one has a role to fill regardless of that.

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"Individuals each play different roles in driving Heatmor, their natural predator, away from their colony." - Pokedex entries from Black & White 2, X, and Omega Ruby Versions.


Another pokemon that seems to be lacking a capability is the Roggenrola line. I can understand why this was overlooked as the look of these little guys has a deceiving feature. The thing is that the "eye" Roggenrola has is actually an ear.

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"The hexagonal-shaped hole is its ear. It has a tendency to walk in the direction the sound is coming from." - Pokedex entry from Black & White 2.


The case appears to be the same for Boldore, but it has gained another ear after evolution. Gigalith may be the exception, because it seems to have gained two red eyes in its ears. It is for this reason I propose that Roggenrola and Boldore have the Blindsense capability.
Edited by Dr.Webster, Jan 23 2017, 12:14 AM.
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Jan 22 2017, 09:00 PM
What, badgers? Since when do badgers not burrow? They've got those big old claws on their front feet for a reason.
Quilava aren't badgers.

Typhlosion are shaped like honey badgers, but quilava have no links to badgers at all.
Edited by milo v3, Jan 23 2017, 04:43 AM.
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Milo's right: While badgers and wolverines (Typhlosion) might dig their own burrows, stoats (Quilava) do not.
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