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Fainted Pokemon still getting captured...?
Topic Started: Jan 6 2017, 11:20 AM (699 Views)
TheGloryXros
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OK, so....I was playtesting my Campaign with friends, and they fought off some Weedle for their first encounter. At the time, they didn't get their Pokeballs yet, so they couldn't catch them. However, they decided that, after KOing both of them, they would simply put them in their bags & take them back to the place where they most likely would get Pokeballs. Is this a fair tactic, considering they should be discouraged from KOing Pokemon to capture them, and if not, what's a fair workaround to not allow those Pokemon to be captured when they're healed back up?
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l33tmaan
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The Pokemon probably isn't going to be too happy when it wakes up. Perhaps it wants to fight more, or just decides that running away is the best option. If they were particularly brutal and they still capture it, give it a low Loyalty for being treated poorly.
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TheGloryXros
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l33tmaan
Jan 6 2017, 11:42 AM
The Pokemon probably isn't going to be too happy when it wakes up. Perhaps it wants to fight more, or just decides that running away is the best option. If they were particularly brutal and they still capture it, give it a low Loyalty for being treated poorly.
Oh yea, I was definitely considering those options.
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tulpacat
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It really depends on the setting you're working in. In any setting even remotely like the anime or video games, this sort of behavior would make you a social pariah, even beyond the usual logistics problems of such actions. There's sort of a long-standing "soft agreement" in the canon pokémon settings that pokémon "want" to be caught, and usually only fight trainers to give those trainers a chance to prove themselves worthy of being their owners.

If your setting involves more "feral" pokémon, this sort of behavior will probably be viewed a lot more fairly, and fainting pokémon before binding them up in some way before using a Revive might be considered entirely "fair", though the 'mon themselves might not agree with that view.
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Jacquerel
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Rules As Written there is absolutely nothing that prevents this behaviour (apart from that repeatedly knocking a pokemon out after it wakes up would likely rack up a bunch of injuries).
This is something you either need to solve via social contract (just tell your players not to do it, or house rule specific circumstances in which pokeballs work that include some level of willigness on the part of the target) or through in-game consequences like loyalty, social ostracisation, or perhaps even retribution (from other wild pokemon, a human organisation, or perhaps even of the divine variety. A good way to get a legendary involved in the plot might be if the PC "owes" them for repeatedly abusing what they regard as their flock and demands they make penance).

As the above poster said, I imagine the fact that nothing explicitly bans this is because in some especially adversarial settings, it might not be something you want to ban. If you are running a campaign that is "grittier" than the usual pokemon setting and pokemon are more like very dangerous wild beasts who need to be tamed before they are viable battle companions, this might even be the expected way to capture a new team member.
Edited by Jacquerel, Jan 6 2017, 12:00 PM.
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Kaede11
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I ruled this:

When you try to capture a pokemon, the poke ball creates a lot of energy to contain the creature. This amount of energy is too much for a fainted body to endure. Therefore if someone tries to catch a fainted pokemon, it dies. It's basically like murdering the critter and is strictly prohibited by law. Also, it is seen as something VERY immoral.
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Eisen
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No, the point described was that the PCs beat the Weedle into unconsciousness, then stuffed them into bags and carried them off.

This is basically poaching, rather than standard trainer weirdness. If this Pokéworld has law enforcement, these trainers should probably be on their watch list.
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l33tmaan
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What if I already have mine on a watch list for going around showing random townsfolk some pictures of a corpse on their phones?
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Shirokiba
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I had this come up, in a game I was running, the player soon found himself face to face with an officer, for pokemon poaching. Sure, when he explained himself and that he was a new trainer, he got off but now he knew the law, he never tried it again, cause The Poke Police in my game, were all trainers that had to pass a rigorous training course, just to have a chance, they were all at least Veteran Trainers, and he just got his first pokemon.
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