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Bone and Steel
Topic Started: Feb 6 2016, 12:46 PM (18,273 Views)
JPThunda
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"We do not have to regale them with the grisly details of what was done here, as I have said, but it is high time that the people of Johto--no, of this entire world learn precisely what is arrayed against them. They deserve the chance to fight for their own survival!," Tsuru said. "Yami is right. The people of this land are stronger than you give them credit for."
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"We're supposed to be fighting for their survival!" Maigo said putting his foot down "We're supposed to be dealing with the messes, fighting the battles, and carrying the burden. Not shifting it onto them." he said looking at Tsuru

"If a person wanted to fight, they'd join the guard or a gym or the Leauge staff. The majority don't want to fight they want to feel safe, and that's what we're supposed to do for them. Not bring crashing realizations down on their heads." he said

"That's what this place was supposed to stand for" he said said motioning around them "Safety, not be a shop of horrors. You act as though the knowledge that the Creator of the Universe hates us is some light thing, but it's not!" he said.

"Do you know what Ume asked me after she learned the truth? She asked me how I could handle it? I could see how much it affected her, and she's one of the strongest women I know. Do you know why I can handle it?" he asked looking at him "So others don't have to." he said.
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Yami disagreed, "I didn't say you we aren't fighting for their survival. It didn't say what we are discussing is not a big deal that the creator of the universe hates is isn't an issue."

"I'm stating the burden is less if we tell them now, if we warn the people now, it'll be less of a burden then if we wait for it to grow. For the situations to worsen." she said, "The burden that we can't contain, is greater than the one we can."

"We stand to protect the people," she said, "I stand to protect the people of johto. We stand to shoulder the burdens they can't handle. If we don't tell them it will be come a burden they can't handle. We have to tell them before we lose control of it."

She said to magio, "Do you want to do what's best for people."

"Or do you want to give them what they want?" she asked.
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"When this was a matter of pokemon acting strangely, I thought as you do, but the enormity of this...it is not right to keep people on the dark when destruction looms over them. They have a right to know, they have a right to defend themselves!," Tsuru said. "It is because it is so important that they deserve to know! How much of the Court's deception could be subverted if they knew? How many more people would take up arms for their families and loved ones. This knowledge could unite the squabbling nations of humanity as never before! United against a common foe for the first time in history!," Tsuru said.

"People will have to come to terms with this reality. Some may panic, but many will have their resolved strengthens for it...as Ume's was...as my own resolve was," Tsuru said. "Or have you forgotten that I am one of those fragile, simple humans?"
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"And I'm not human?" Maigo asked looking at him "I mean I can understand the confusion, with the whole being a giant bird half the time." he said smiling a bit.

"Still I think you're being optimistic and pinning a lot on that optimism. That humans will join together and go on the offensive instead of focusing on their and their families defense" he said turning to Yami.

"Honestly I don't know what the best for humanity is. All three of us could be wrong, there could be some third option we don't even see. I just would like people to have peace." he said
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"If this was just a matter of Pokemon acting strangely then I would say that we should tell them. People can stand against Pokemon. Us? We aren't so simple"

Izaya turned to Tsuru "Or are you forgetting the real reason we all were chosen? It isn't because we were the best our masters had to offer, because we were strong, or even because we were human."

"We were chosen because we all had ties to the Court from our very birth. It shaped us, molded us into what we are now. We have power that a normal person couldn't harness in their wildest dreams"

"They aren't as strong as us, because they don't have to be, they weren't born to be"

He stepped closer to Tsuru "Not to mention, your fanatical hatred towards non humans is really starting to get under my skin. You place Humans above all else, disregarding the sacrifices of all the Nobles and other members of the Court who have rebelled. Disregarding the sacrifices I made in trying to protect the people of this region."

"This fight isn't just for humans anymore. This fight is for the freedom to live for ALL life. And you need to see that before its too late"
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Yami responded flatly to izaya, "They are."

"People are just as strong as us." she said, "I'm sure of that fact. That people can take just as much as we can."

"It's not optimism." she said, "It's trust."

"I don't agree that we should tell them in expectation of raising an army to fight the nobles, nor do I expect them to help us in our fight against the nobles," she said, "I'm saying we tell them, because the burden we shoulder now is less than that if we hide it. So that way when the end is upon us, They can trust us without worry, and to do that we need to trust them."
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"Were you in Violet? No. You were hidden away in your temple." Izaya said, shaking his head "For every one person who was ready to fight, there were hundreds more huddled under their roofs, cowering and praying for us to come save them. You ask to take away their roofs. To throw fear across the region."

"They don't NEED to know. Just because you almost couldn't stop yourself from joining them doesn't mean anything about how others would react."

"I had my birth hidden from me and yet I still never thought to betray humanity, and I'm one of them"
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Yami looked at Izaya.

She didn't say anything.

She walked out.
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Maigo sighed "Does every single debate have to end in a personal attack or a pushing of old wounds? I know emotions are high during these debates but still..." he said disappointed the discussion had devolved once again as he followed after Yami.
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