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On Fossil Pokemon
Topic Started: Sep 12 2015, 06:52 PM (1,582 Views)
Nadodan
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It's something I've been thinking about. Were Fossil Pokemon originally part Rock Types or is that a side effect of the Reanimation process since they are remade of Fossilized materials embedded in rocks.
Edited by Nadodan, Sep 12 2015, 06:53 PM.
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Pretty sure it's mostly from the reanimation process, though in some cases, like Lileep, Kabuto, Omanyte and Tirtouga lines, it makes sense for them to have been that typing beforehand.
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I had that thought too. Ran a game where fossils were still alive, gave most of them more fitting types. It was a good time.
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Sounds fun. Also I think Fossils can tell us something interesting. A common theme in Fossil Pokemon pokedex entries is the phrase 'almost 100 million year' which implies that almost 100 million years ago or sometime between than and now there was an extinction level event in the Pokemon world.
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I had an idea for non-rock fossil pokemon in one of my games, One player used This one's special to achieve that. His Aerodactyl will be dragon/flying when it hatches.
Edited by Grand Silver, Sep 13 2015, 12:11 AM.
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I like to think that the Rock typing is either added to a Pokemon's typing, or even replacing a type, as a result of fossilization. Fossilization is the process in which hard, porous materials like bone, shell, and wood are slowly replaced over time by minerals deposited by water. It is the stone that replaces the original remains that changes the type to Rock.

This could make for an interesting possibility, by allowing for a player to revert the fossil pokemon to its original typing, or to obtain an original fossil Pokemon through time travel. Two such original typings I would love to see happen is a Fighting type Rampardos and a Water/Bug Armaldo.
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That idea always bugs me (it made me register on this forum despite not even knowing what the whole tabletop thing is about XD Hi guys).

My standpoint is this:
-The Rock type is an intended part of the concepts/designs of every one of these Pokemon. All of them are legit Rock type Pokemon, as much as any non-fossil Rock types are.
-Wondering if Armaldo is actually a Water/Bug Pokemon, is equivalent to wondering if Typhlosion is actually a Normal type, or certain legendaries actually aren't Dragon types etc... and it only holds true in the sense of their designing process (Typhlosion was made to be a Fire starter, Armaldo was made to be a Rock-type fossil etc.)

My interpretation of it is this:
-fossil Pokemon are all Rock type, because only genetic material of Rock-types can actually survive the fossilisation process and can be fully recovered and cloned. The Rock-type manifests in certain features of the body that are sturdy and are what preserves their DNA from decaying away, unlike every other living organism. That's why there is no non-Rock type fossil Pokemon, they don't preserve.

My evidence are the following cases:
#1 Old Amber
This "fossil" is not preserved in rock, but in amber, proving that it is not the process of being fossilized inside a rock that "adds" a Rock-typing.
#2 Mega Aerodactyl
pretty much all official descriptions and flavor texts mention something about its Mega evolution being closer to its ancient appearance. The core feature of its design is sharp rocky protrusions everywhere on its body. Which confirms that at least Aerodactyl has always been a Rock type.
#3.1 Primary Rock type
If the Rock type was just an "addition" and had nothing to do with the actual Pokemon the fossil is from, it would make more sense for the Rock-type to be the secondary type (like how Rhyhorn is Ground/Rock, instead of Rock/Ground like Geodude), but instead it is their primary type, to the point where it makes Anorith one of the almost non-existant cases of Bug-types where Bug is not their main type (the other one is Skorupi who loses it upon evolving). An easy counter-argument to this is that perhaps the "process" is so extreme that it doesn't just add the Rock type, but makes it the most prominent type...
#3.2 The exception
...but that argument fails because it is not consistent anymore: Tirtouga/Carracosta are Water/Rock. They prove that the Rock type is not a forced primary type for fossil-Pokemon, but is sorted according to how the designer sees fit for the design/concept (as with ANY dual type Pokemon). So in Tirtougas case it might be reasoning along the lines of "the turtle-body itself is not a Rock-type organism, but the turtle-shell is, and that is secondary to it being a Water-type Pokemon in the creators view".
Edited by charon, Oct 13 2015, 03:09 PM.
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@charon I actually find your idea of how Rock types are able to withstand the fossilization process kinda interesting, and possibly a more correct interpretation. It would also explain how in the show and movies (which I don't usually consider to be cannon) how there are fossils of other Pokemon, but either are not revived or turn out wrong. These would include a Sunkern fossil, which wasn't revived, and the fossilized remains of a Groudon creates a fake Groudon rather than a revived version.
Edited by Nacho_Rocket, Oct 13 2015, 04:28 PM.
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