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League legality of Items
Topic Started: Jun 2 2014, 02:41 PM (1,366 Views)
theholymoo
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I'm just wondering if i should put a limitation on the use of items in sanctioned Pokemon battle, it seems to me that it could devolve into the richest trainer wins cause they have all the revives and hyper potions.
At the same time, I have a medic in the group and i don't want them to feel like i'm picking on them, i just feel that the medics powers are more appropriate outside of league battles.
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castfromhp
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Items are typically not considered League legal. We're working on a write-up though that defines different levels of League legality and variations on rules. If you want to introduce items, then my suggestion is to give a standard load out of items to each side, rather than allowing Trainers to bring in their own items. This would probably work better for a format like a gauntlet of battles (ex: Elite 4 run with no full healing in between battles) rather than one on one tournament matches.

Medic is not intended for use during League matches. They're there to make wilderness travel, dealing with criminals, etc easier, but they're definitely not meant for healing in the middle of a tournament battle.
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DNA
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Items are typically not considered League legal.

I believe Held Items are the exception, though. But other than that, other medicinal items wouldn't be considered legal, unless your Pokemon has them equipped going into the fight (e.g. Lum Berry or Black Sludge). Potion spamming is just mean.

Usually, anything that involves the trainer directly interfering with the match is not considered league legal (and potions etc would fall under this, as well as almost all non-Static non-Orders features), unless it's stated beforehand otherwise.
Edited by DNA, Jun 2 2014, 03:04 PM.
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castfromhp
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Oh, good catch. Yes, allowing Pokémon to use the Held Item(s) they carried into the match is okay. It's just anything which requires Trainer intervention to apply an item, like restoratives, that wouldn't be allowed.
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...or Mega Stones, because those are technically player-intervention AND held items, right? Or are those a no-go; haven't played X or Y to know.
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TM93
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Where would the idea that Mega Stones aren't League Legal come from? Diantha, the Kalos Champion, uses Mega Gardevoir in the fight against you. It doesn't get much more League Legal than "the Champion uses this mechanic". The only reason that Mega Evolutions aren't seen very commonly outside of the competitive scene is twofold.

1) the player gets access to Mega Evolution early-midgame, so tossing out Megas before that would be simply unfair against the Player, at least that's how I imagine Game Freak sees it.

2) The Mega Ring in and of itself is a very rare and hard-to-come-by item, and that's necessary for Mega Evolution. Over the entire main story only 4 characters, counting the Player, have one, out of the hundreds if not thousands of trainers in Kalos. (5 in postgame with Calem/Serena, mind you).

As such, I really don't think Mega Stones should be banned from League Battles by DEFAULT. Especially since most GM's would think up ways around it, or just give the NPC's Megas of their own. While Megas are strong, they aren't in the "Slap to the face" category like spamming Full Restores mid-match to stall out your opponent.

Edit: Okay, I kinda forgot to touch on the fact that you hadn't played X or Y so you wouldn't know. I really hope this didn't come across as rude.
Edited by TM93, Jun 2 2014, 06:01 PM.
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castfromhp
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Mega Stones/Rings are League legal too, if an official ruling is needed here. I suppose I should think before making absolute statements, sorry.
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Ursus the Grim
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TM93
Jun 2 2014, 05:54 PM
Where would the idea that Mega Stones aren't League Legal come from? Diantha, the Kalos Champion, uses Mega Gardevoir in the fight against you. It doesn't get much more League Legal than "the Champion uses this mechanic". The only reason that Mega Evolutions aren't seen very commonly outside of the competitive scene is twofold.
On the other hand, the champs are also known to use restoratives in the game (sometimes two or more Full Restores) so this doesn't exactly mean much.

Looking forward to the writeup, though.
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malonkey1
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I always ruled that Mega Stones were usable only by mutual agreement. It's only leagual if both parties in the battle agree to it.
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Andramal
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Though no responses in a few days, I figured I'd point this out too, in regard to Mega Evolution:

Just as you need the ring, you need the stone the pokemon holds. Since it uses up a held item slot, it's not much different from certain items that provide buffs to a pokemon from the start.

Since Mega Evolution doesn't seem 'super crazy woah' powerful powerful, I could see that as why it's legal - it takes up the held item space.
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