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Concerning Underdog; Specifically, the Genetic Memory Feature
Topic Started: Apr 14 2014, 05:21 AM (1,011 Views)
Artemis Vell
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The effect of Genetic Memory is:
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Choose a Move that your Pokémon’s final
Evolution could learn at Level X or Lower, where X
is its current Level plus the highest of your Pokémon
Education, Charm, or Command Ranks. The target
learns the chosen Move as a Level-Up Move.


Okay, that makes sense for MOST Pokemon, like every starter Pokemon. But what about those that have a final form that doesn't learn moves? I'm talking about Litwick (to Lampent to Chandelure) specifically, but other Pokemon that evolve with Stones (Eevee excluded) also lack Move-learning Evolutions.

So my question is this: in what ways can an Underdog Pokemon, like Litwick or Vulpix, who has a Final Evolution that learns no Moves by Level-Up, benefit from Genetic Memory (and consequently, from Technical Memory)?
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malonkey1
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Artemis Vell
Apr 14 2014, 05:21 AM
The effect of Genetic Memory is:
Quote:
 
Choose a Move that your Pokémon’s final
Evolution could learn at Level X or Lower, where X
is its current Level plus the highest of your Pokémon
Education, Charm, or Command Ranks. The target
learns the chosen Move as a Level-Up Move.


Okay, that makes sense for MOST Pokemon, like every starter Pokemon. But what about those that have a final form that doesn't learn moves? I'm talking about Litwick (to Lampent to Chandelure) specifically, but other Pokemon that evolve with Stones (Eevee excluded) also lack Move-learning Evolutions.

So my question is this: in what ways can an Underdog Pokemon, like Litwick or Vulpix, who has a Final Evolution that learns no Moves by Level-Up, benefit from Genetic Memory (and consequently, from Technical Memory)?
According to RAW, it would appear not. However, I'd houserule in this circumstance that you can use the 2nd-form list.
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castfromhp
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Treat the Stone evolutions that lose level-up moves as if they didn't. Just give them the level-up lists of their next highest form or, in the case of those which do a few level-up moves, integrate that list with their current level-up lists. We're going to be doing something along these lines in the next iteration of PTU, because there's no good reason for Stone evolutions to no longer be able to learn new Moves, really.
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MiltankSteak
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How's Genetic Memory work with things like Eevee where they have multiple final evolutions?
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castfromhp
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There's a note right under the Feature which covers this scenario. Please, read the PDF a little more carefully before asking questions.

"Note: If an Underdog Pokémon has multiple possible Final Evolutions, choose one Final Evolution. All Moves learned through Genetic Memory and Technical Memory must be chosen only from that Evolution’s Move Pool. If the target is an Underdog Pokémon that is already at its final evolution, it may use this Feature to learn a Move a bit early."
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Artemis Vell
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Thanks, Castfromhp!
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SuperVaderMan
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Sorry to rez a thread, but I also had some questions regarding Genetic Memory. I just can't seem to wrap my head around it and how it works.

The way I'm reading it is that you add the highest of your three skills to your pokemon's level, and if there's a move at or below that level on the Level-Up list of your pokemon's final evolution, then your pokemon can learn it. The thing is, unevolved pokemon already learn moves earlier than their evolutions, so it seems kinda pointless to me if that's how it works.

For example, say you have a Doduo that wants to learn Thrash from Dodrio's list, and say you have Master Command. The earliest you could learn Thrash through Genetic Memory is at level 55, because 55+6 = 61, and you can only use the feature on levels divisible by 5. But Doduo already learns Thrash at level 50....

Is this the way it works? In some cases I can see it being useful, like for certain Stone evolutions such as Nidoking where they have exclusive moves their pre-evolutions don't have, but for the vast majority the feat seems kinda useless. Aside from qualifying for Technical Memory, that is.
Edited by SuperVaderMan, Jun 2 2014, 08:51 PM.
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The point is to use the feature for exclusive moves, such as teaching an Eevee elemental attacks or the Nidoking example you mentioned.
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